Willie, You are SO correct - Peavey basses are workhorses and under appreciated, witness the current values on used Peavey instruments. I've owned a '94 Peavey Forum Plus bass for years and it was the perfect base (no pun intended) instrument in which I could learn to play the bass. Nice wood, great ergonomics, and nice active pups..... Plus, a price far below the HFC-approved purchase price!! I will be selling it soon because I've moved on to a 2TEK Cruisebass, even though I did try to find a 2TEK-equipped Peavey Axcellerator. No luck..... As much as I love Hamer guitars and basses, I have always identified with Hartley's philosophy and I will never get rid of my Peavey Odyssey. I'll always have a Peavey in da' HOUSE! Derek