Van Halen To Be Inducted.....

[Guest bluejohnp]

REM

In 80s england we didnt get much action musically beyond synth bands like depeachy mode and flock of seagulls, but..................then we heard of

the replacements

Husker Du

Meat Puppets and.....

REM

went to see REM during their first tour of Engerland

they were ........v. good to say the least

Americana via Punk via something very much guitar led

they may have gotten a bit too good, maybe a bit fleetwood mac

but when I saw them on the Green tour they still knew how to make a stadium seem like a small club

very intimate

Buck played Wembley Arena with one Vox AC30......

Kurt regarded their determination to not sell out as one of his main inspirations

Hell, even Radiohead (wimpy english prog-rock band) rate them

but what do I know

first riff I learned was Layla when it came out so I dont go back so far as to be solely into blues guitar rock or anything

I suspect that music isnt just about great guitar tone, but I could be wrong

[El Kabong]

No DLR? What a shame. Van Hagar? Fuggums!

[BCR Greg]

[RobB]

Those b/w pics are great. That must be "Mammoth"-era VH, with the keyboardist.

BTW, Eddie: put a fukkin' shirt on, wouldja? Eeeeeyuk...

[frank_c]

I wonder about the people who vote, too. How many of them are industry people with an opportunity to cash in with some renewed sales of artist catalogs or videos?

they're ALL industry people. all of Wenner's shitty San Fran friend's bands are in (Buffalo Springfield?)...most of Ahmet Ertegun's classic Atlantic roster is in (most of them woulda got it anyways)...

now some various ranting...

i can't find the post, but someone brought up that Van Hagar shouldn't get in until 2011...so i guess the Mick Taylor era Stones shoulda got in later than the original band, and the Ron Wood version even after that. ain't the way it works. and the argument that a singer is a bigger part of a band than a guitar player is a weak argument, especially on a guitar board.

i will laugh my ass off when a couple of my favorite New Wave bands get in before everyone else's favorite hard rock or snobby esoteric bullshit "we're too cool for you" bands get in.

Cherone had NO CHANCE to get with VH. why reward him for killing the band? he hasn't "had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll" (rock hall's criteria, not mine). and if anyone thinks Extreme gets in, then they must be related to Cherone.

Hagar gets in on Ed's coattails. again, find me interviews where some kid says he wanted to be in a band because he thinks the capri-pant wearing, Jimmy Buffett wannabe Hagar is cool. i doubt they exist.

i hope Grandmaster Flash performs White Lines at the ceremony. i like that song.

can't wait to see which of the '80's punk bands get in.

asshole signing off.

[Willie G. Moseley]

JEEZUS!!! RE the GUITAR WORLD cover, is it just me or does EVH look like he's got collagen/bee-sting lips???

And I was thinking about a Jocelyn Wildenstein comparison as well, but the above pictures confirmed my fears (and I'm LMAO). It'd be interesting to see if SPY magazine could do something along this line in a "Separated at Birth?" installment.

[LordOfTheThighs]

Is it me, or are these two the same dude? Same plastic surgery butcher?

[Dasein]

Every day I see Ed I'm embarrassed and ashamed that as a 14 to 18 year old I worshiped him. Worse than finding out your Dad is gay or your sister is really your mom. I'd rather have two dads than one guitar hero like ed in my closet. I spit on him. Thanks for playing the last two shows I saw of VH so totally blotto it killed my inner child. Merci beaucoup MoFo. Now go buy some Meth.

And please put a fucking shirt on. I'd rather not see your old man boobs. They disturb me.

R,

[Brooks]

Worse than finding out your Dad is gay or your sister is really your mom. I'd rather have two dads than one guitar hero like ed in my closet. I spit on him. Thanks for playing the last two shows I saw of VH so totally blotto it killed my inner child. Merci beaucoup MoFo. Now go buy some Meth.

yikes, easy w/ the homophobia, we have gay members here.

that's about as classy as dropping the N word or going all mel gibson.

-brooks (short hetro half jew)

[kizanski]

Worse than finding out your Dad is gay or your sister is really your mom. I'd rather have two dads than one guitar hero like ed in my closet. I spit on him. Thanks for playing the last two shows I saw of VH so totally blotto it killed my inner child. Merci beaucoup MoFo. Now go buy some Meth.

yikes, easy w/ the homophobia, we have gay members here.

that's about as classy as dropping the N word or going all mel gibson.

-brooks (short hetro half jew)

Yes - thin ice, my friend.

Neither the time, place, or forum.

[BCR Greg]

If my Dad were to be gay, he would still be my Dad, and I would love him the same.

[Dasein]

Worse than finding out your Dad is gay or your sister is really your mom. I'd rather have two dads than one guitar hero like ed in my closet. I spit on him. Thanks for playing the last two shows I saw of VH so totally blotto it killed my inner child. Merci beaucoup MoFo. Now go buy some Meth.

yikes, easy w/ the homophobia, we have gay members here.

that's about as classy as dropping the N word or going all mel gibson.

-brooks (short hetro half jew)

Yes - thin ice, my friend.

Neither the time, place, or forum.

Guys -- you misinterpret --- I'm talking about the reality of having your shit fucked up. Finding out your Dad was gay would fuck your shit up -- no homophobia involved. You could yourself be Gay -- and find out your dad was gay, and still have your shit fucked up. You'd still love and support your Dad (even though your shit got fucked up for a few hours/days) and would live a happy life as the proud kid of a gay dad --- UNLIKE having your guitar hero turn out to be a drug addicted douche-bag. That sort of thing you don't recover from.

So in short form: Gay dad revelation -- temporarily fuck your shit up, but life goes on, and you are proud to represent with your gay dad.

Former Guitar hero is drug addicted douche-bag: You live in shame and embarrassment and you never want to mention his name in polite company again.

If I was saying anything disparaging about Gay's or gay dad's my analogy wouldn't work, It's the whole contrast thing that makes the comparison funny (it was supposed to be funny). Next time I'll chose a subject less loaded (like transvestite dads, or something).

Gay Dad = good (though certainly a temporary mindfuck)

Guitar Hero as douchebag ---- just bad bad bad.'

Anyway -- sorry to have been unclear. I'm sure if you read it through again, you'll see that no offense was intended.

R.

[Guest pirateflynn]

Man, you guys are rough on EVH. He's still the dude who tore it up all those years.

[BruceM]

Man, you guys are rough on EVH. He's still the dude who tore it up all those years.

He's no Gay Dad, though. I suppose it'll be 20 years before THIS Gay Dad makes it in.

Gay Dad myspace page

This is actually safe for work, with a few cool tunes listed.

[MCChris]

BTW, Eddie: put a fukkin' shirt on, wouldja? Eeeeeyuk...

I´ve been in Mexico all week with my shirt off. I´M the one who should put his shirt back on. I´d rather have the physique of EVH or Iggy Pop RIGHT NOW (not to mention when I´m their age) than my own. It´s better to be skinny than fat, 1000 times out of 1000.

And please put a fucking shirt on. I'd rather not see your old man boobs. They disturb me.

Don´t worry. Looking at a shirtless dude don´t make you gay. If it did, I wouldn´t have damn near collapsed the four-poster bed this morning [Ace Ventura voice]PORKING MY WIFE[/Ace Ventura voice] after a solid week of looking at shirtless dudes. (Or .... I´d have been fantasizing about a man while doing so).

[Hamer95USA]

Hey guys,

What's up with everyone calling Eddie Van Halen gay or has "man boobs"? The guy just fought off cancer, got divorced, is trying to put Van Halen back together, has his son, Wolfgang, playing bass, and produced a porno movie soundtrack. He's trying to make a comeback of some kind and I don't get why people are slamming him for his appearance on a magazine cover. The picture shows the guy obviously works out and projects a California surfer guy type of vibe. At least, he doesn't have a pot belly and he looks healthy for a 40 to 50 year old guy. What's wrong with that? The guy revolutionized hard rock/heavy metal playing with tapping, tremolo bar techniques, etc. over 20 years ago.

I hope that David Lee Roth, Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar and Eddie can accept their award, show some positve vibes to their audience, get along onstage & offstage without some kind of incident and maybe, try to reunite the original Van Halen again. I would hate to see them accepting the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame awards like Blondie, with Blondie trying to snub her ex-bandmates, accepting the award and then the bandmembers coming out badmouthing each other onstage due to some sort of bad blood between her & the ex-bandmembers. That's not what rock & roll is about, disgraces the event and it's unprofessional.

Guitar George

[MCChris]

I don't get why people are slamming him for his appearance on a magazine cover.

It´s because he´s a dick. Same reason why people bag on Yngwie for being fat and don´t do the same to Warren Haynes. Yngwie is a dick. Warren is not. Such is the downside of being a dick.

The fact that Eddie is a dick actually makes me like this incarnation of him as much as, if not more than, any other. Like good-natured drunks a la Dean Martin, the world needs more bizarro eccentrics.

[frank_c]

The guy just fought off cancer

and continues to smoke...

The picture shows the guy obviously works out

if you saw his teeth, you wouldn't think that. Ed looks like a tweaker.

[BCR Greg]

I first met Eddie in 1984 or 85. He was a dick, and I was crushed. Thankfully, Valerie was a blast to be around, and I hung with her. This was at the NAMM summer show in Chicago. The next year, I hung with Val again and we had lots of fun watching the throng line up to get autographs and give Eddie gifts. I have had the occasion to spend time with Eddie several times since then, backstage at shows and at various functions. Dave's an asshole, but you expect that. You don't expect Eddie to be such a tool. He's a bigger egomaniac than anyone that I've ever met, but isn't as obvious about it. Hell, even Yngwie's cooler than Ed.

In Eddie's defense, he was the biggest, baddest, most influential guitarist since Hendrix, and he watched the world turn it's back on him. As a fellow alcoholic, I cannot imagine how I would have handled the stresses that he was dealt.

He did make a mockery of Gary Cherone, and there was no reason for how that was handled. Gary's vocals were buried on the CD.

Bottom line, Eddie's become a sad monument to a bygone era, and his inability to put grudges aside for the fans will be his biggest failing.

[Guest pirateflynn]

I first met Eddie in 1984 or 85. He was a dick, and I was crushed. Thankfully, Valerie was a blast to be around, and I hung with her. This was at the NAMM summer show in Chicago. The next year, I hung with Val again and we had lots of fun watching the throng line up to get autographs and give Eddie gifts. I have had the occasion to spend time with Eddie several times since then, backstage at shows and at various functions. Dave's an asshole, but you expect that. You don't expect Eddie to be such a tool. He's a bigger egomaniac than anyone that I've ever met, but isn't as obvious about it. Hell, even Yngwie's cooler than Ed.

In Eddie's defense, he was the biggest, baddest, most influential guitarist since Hendrix, and he watched the world turn it's back on him. As a fellow alcoholic, I cannot imagine how I would have handled the stresses that he was dealt.

He did make a mockery of Gary Cherone, and there was no reason for how that was handled. Gary's vocals were buried on the CD.

Bottom line, Eddie's become a sad monument to a bygone era, and his inability to put grudges aside for the fans will be his biggest failing.

Yeah but .......... what about the Man Boobs and his Bee Stung lips?!

lol

[hudpucker]

Yeah but .......... what about the Man Boobs and his Bee Stung lips?!

lol

I dunno about the lips but this will assist with those unsightly "moobs":

http://kramerica.tv/

[alantigold]

In Eddie's defense, he was the biggest, baddest, most influential guitarist since Hendrix, and he watched the world turn it's back on him.

I'd say it may have been less a case of the world turning its collective back on him, and more a case of Eddie going in a direction the world didn't want to follow. To me, and I won't claim to be a VH expert, when Eddie started to move towards playing more keyboards, he kind of lost his edge on guitar and never got it back. I know VH sold more records w/Sammy, but the music from that era never captured me like the DLR era did.

Alan

[frank_c]

I know VH sold more records w/Sammy, but the music from that era never captured me like the DLR era did.

that is an example of Hagar math and it's not true. VH had more #1's with Spam, but not more units sold.

[hamerican gigolo]

R.E.M.??

That just watered down the whole exclusivity of the whole thing. Who's next? Flock of Seagulls?

Gimme a f**kin' break.

I like R.EM.'s first decade. They made some fabulous records.

[Guest pirateflynn]

If my Dad were to be gay, he would still be my Dad, and I would love him the same.

This the best quote I've read so far this year.

lol