59burst Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Are they backwards? I had a little backbow and turned it clockwise and it got worse, then turned it counter-clockwise and it added relief. Are they backwards from Fenders? I don't think I've ever adjusted any of my Gibsons so I don't know which way they turned but I assumed it was the same as Fender.
kizanski Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 No, they all work the same way in the same direction. Counter clock-wise (loosening) will add relief.Maybe you're remembering it backwards?
zorrow Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 No, they all work the same way in the same direction. Counter clock-wise (loosening) will add relief. Maybe you're remembering it backwards? ...or you're maybe lefty?
59burst Posted June 1, 2008 Author Posted June 1, 2008 No, I've done Fenders a bunch of times-this one's backwards. Are the imports different by any chance? Mines a U.S. one unless there's some funny business going on. It's a '95 I think-serial numbers indicate the correct year for a wraparound tailpiece. Says Hamer Studio with USA in small letters next to it. Were there ever any wraparound tailpiece imports? Maybe I'm just being paranoid-just seems wierd that it's backwards.
kizanski Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Clockwise (tightening) straightens and then back bows the neck.Counter clock-wise (loosening) relieves the neck.I don't know what you have going on there, but that's the way every standard truss rod that I have ever seen works.
kizanski Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Maybe OP lives south of the equator?Yes. Perhaps it's the Coriolis effect!
paults Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Vintage Fenders are adjusted at the other end of the neck. Looking at the truss rod adjusters, they are both "lefty loosey - righty tighty".
BCR Greg Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Turning towards the bass side straightens the neck on a Hamer, Gibson, any other guitar with a truss rod. Turning towards the treble side allows the strings to bow the neck. On a double action truss rod, turning towards the treble side will eventually add bow, regardless of string tension. With a Fender, the adjustment is on the body end, so the above is reversed.Hamer uses single action truss rods, as does Fender.
veatch Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Weird. For it to be backwards, the rod and adjusting nut would have had to have been tapped and died with left-handed threads, or the truss rod channel would have had to have been cut convex. Neither are things that could be done accidentally, and i doubt they would have been done intentionally... Let us know what you find. Very odd. Edit to add: A convex truss rod channel would be non-functional for a single action truss rod...
59burst Posted June 1, 2008 Author Posted June 1, 2008 Turning towards the bass side straightens the neck on a Hamer, Gibson, any other guitar with a truss rod. Turning towards the treble side allows the strings to bow the neck. On a double action truss rod, turning towards the treble side will eventually add bow, regardless of string tension. With a Fender, the adjustment is on the body end, so the above is reversed. Hamer uses single action truss rods, as does Fender. Hmm, according to this it sounds right-I turned toward the treble strings to tighten and add bow - after trying it the other way, which I considered clockwise. My Fenders all are modern ones with the adjustment at the headstock (actually two non-fenders are on the other end), but at the headstock on those, I turn the allen wrench the other way. So as long as I'm turning toward the treble strings I'm tightening the rod on the Hamer, yes? That's how mine worked. But I still see that as counter-clockwise..
veatch Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Turning towards the bass side straightens the neck on a Hamer, Gibson, any other guitar with a truss rod. Turning towards the treble side allows the strings to bow the neck. On a double action truss rod, turning towards the treble side will eventually add bow, regardless of string tension. With a Fender, the adjustment is on the body end, so the above is reversed. Hamer uses single action truss rods, as does Fender. So as long as I'm turning toward the treble strings I'm tightening the rod on the Hamer, yes? That's how mine worked. But I still see that as counter-clockwise.. No, it's the opposite, as Greg sed. To the bass side is a clockwise turn and would tighten the rod, pushing the middle of the fretboard toward the strings. To the treble side is counter-clockwise and loosens the rod. At what frets is there a problem? You might have the truss rod too tight and it is back-bowed.
BCR Greg Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 QUOTE(59burst @ Jun 1 2008, 01:54 PM) *So as long as I'm turning toward the treble strings I'm tightening the rod on the Hamer, yes? That's how mine worked. But I still see that as counter-clockwise.. huh.gifNo.Yours could NOT have done that. Not if it is a Hamer.Tightening a truss rod bends the head back, loosening it bends the head forward.
59burst Posted June 1, 2008 Author Posted June 1, 2008 Okay, maybe I f'd up and got my loosening and tightening mixed up. It's actually adjusted fine now, but I think it actually needed to be loosened instead of tightened, in which case turning counter-clockwise would be the right way to go. What Veatch said clued me in to my mistake-it was actually backbowed a little due to climate changes and I wanted some relief, which I got by loosening, but I got it in my head I was tightening. Anyway, thanks for the help-good thing I only turn a little at a time.
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