Anybody want a Dumble Overdrive Special?

[rj2858]

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/mastodons-brent-hinds-on-santanas-smooth-like-someone-taking-a-carrot-peeler-and-gouging-it-into-your-ears/

I'll start by admitting that I just had to 'youtube' Mastodon, and made it through about 30 seconds of the first song I clicked on, called "Oblivion"

That said, like Santana, or the song 'Smooth', or not, what does this turds opinion mean, bearing in mind what I just heard his band playing?

Talk about a carrot peeler in your ear!

[bcsride]

So, 85K was a bargain?

There is one for 125K over at TGP

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1206706

You know, if I had a 125K dumble, I'd soon have 125K, hmm or maybe 120K and a Matchless?

[Never2Late]

So, 85K was a bargain?

There is one for 125K over at TGP

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1206706

You know, if I had a 125K dumble, I'd soon have 125K, hmm or maybe 120K and a Matchless?

Saw that over the weekend - nice leopard-print felt covering. Who puts an amp like this 'on-ice' for fifteen years???

[Tres Aardvarks]

Somebody paying crazy (to most) money for an amp that is supposed to get them near someone's sound doesn't rankle me. But then again, it also doesn't bother me that most people buying Ferraris (or other exotica) can't drive them any better than they could drive a Chevette. It took me a long time to get over that stuff, now I just think "hey man, if it makes you happy, it's your money". No skin off my back.

[The Shark]

Think about the last time you saw a "Chevette" on the road. The fact that it had "vette" in the name always made me smile.

[Tres Aardvarks]

Think about the last time you saw a "Chevette" on the road. The fact that it had "vette" in the name always made me smile.

We called ours the "ShoveIt"..

[cmatthes]

Our Driver's Ed cars in High School were Chevy Citations. I learned to drive a manual transmission on one of those.

The joke back then was that you'd never be able to get one going fast enough to get a traffic citation.

(Hey, we were 15, but it was true!)

[veatch]

Our Driver's Ed cars in High School were Chevy Citations. I learned to drive a manual transmission on one of those.

The joke back then was that you'd never be able to get one going fast enough to get a traffic citation.

(Hey, we were 15, but it was true!)

We called my buddy's the "Lenscrafter Car": 0 to 60 "in about an hour".

If you're not old enough to get the reference, screw you and get off my lawn!

[specialk]

So I was in the neighborhood and I stopped by Guitar Exchange, a small guitar shop in Catonsville MD. I hadn't been in years, because, well, the owner was kind of a douche, but they definitely had a lot of cool guitars.

One thing I remembered from years ago was the Dumble Overdrive Special they had smack dab in the middle of their amp section. They got it around 1995 and promptly declared it 'not for sale.'

Based on what I saw today, I'd estimate their on-hand inventory had diminished by about 75 percent. Still some cool guitars but not nearly as many. And the owner was about 75 percent less douchey as well. Connection maybe? Anyway, I didn't recognize anything from the old lineup...except for the Dumble, which was now in a place of prominence along the wall. And now, it was 'for sale.' And he offered it to me, since the deal he thought he had was falling through.

Price? $85,000. He offered to knock of a thou.

If that one is $85,000, then this one must be a steal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUMBLE-OVERDRIVE-SPECIAL-FULL-RIG-Estate-Items-in-Mint-Condition-/271149509473?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f21c52b61

[HSB0531]

Buy a Fuchs and save yourself $80k.

[The Shark]

Fuchs, BrownNote, Two-Rock, Bludo, Kane, and even Ceriatone make great Dumble inspired amps. They've so finely disected them over at AmpGarage, the mystique is kind of washed away. They aren't for everyone, but I really have found them to be great for what I do.

[crunchee]

So I was in the neighborhood and I stopped by Guitar Exchange, a small guitar shop in Catonsville MD. I hadn't been in years, because, well, the owner was kind of a douche, but they definitely had a lot of cool guitars.

One thing I remembered from years ago was the Dumble Overdrive Special they had smack dab in the middle of their amp section. They got it around 1995 and promptly declared it 'not for sale.'

Based on what I saw today, I'd estimate their on-hand inventory had diminished by about 75 percent. Still some cool guitars but not nearly as many. And the owner was about 75 percent less douchey as well. Connection maybe? Anyway, I didn't recognize anything from the old lineup...except for the Dumble, which was now in a place of prominence along the wall. And now, it was 'for sale.' And he offered it to me, since the deal he thought he had was falling through.

Price? $85,000. He offered to knock of a thou.

If that one is $85,000, then this one must be a steal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUMBLE-OVERDRIVE-SPECIAL-FULL-RIG-Estate-Items-in-Mint-Condition-/271149509473?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f21c52b61

I'm glad you posted this auction site, I just read the Dan Forte article quoted there...so NOW I've got a better idea on what using a Dumble's all about. I guess I must've lead a sheltered life, I've always heard about Dumbles, but never really knew what the fuss was about, or the history around them. This article gets to what I needed to know.

It makes me even MORE glad now, that I'm a crappy guitar player with a limited budget. Or a limited guitar player with a crappy budget.

[HSB0531]

Another thing about the Dumble is the inconsistency in tone.

Sort of the Gibson of amps.

[veatch]

So I was in the neighborhood and I stopped by Guitar Exchange, a small guitar shop in Catonsville MD. I hadn't been in years, because, well, the owner was kind of a douche, but they definitely had a lot of cool guitars.

One thing I remembered from years ago was the Dumble Overdrive Special they had smack dab in the middle of their amp section. They got it around 1995 and promptly declared it 'not for sale.'

Based on what I saw today, I'd estimate their on-hand inventory had diminished by about 75 percent. Still some cool guitars but not nearly as many. And the owner was about 75 percent less douchey as well. Connection maybe? Anyway, I didn't recognize anything from the old lineup...except for the Dumble, which was now in a place of prominence along the wall. And now, it was 'for sale.' And he offered it to me, since the deal he thought he had was falling through.

Price? $85,000. He offered to knock of a thou.

If that one is $85,000, then this one must be a steal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUMBLE-OVERDRIVE-SPECIAL-FULL-RIG-Estate-Items-in-Mint-Condition-/271149509473?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f21c52b61

I'm glad you posted this auction site, I just read the Dan Forte article quoted there...so NOW I've got a better idea on what using a Dumble's all about. I guess I must've lead a sheltered life, I've always heard about Dumbles, but never really knew what the fuss was about, or the history around them. This article gets to what I needed to know.

It makes me even MORE glad now, that I'm a crappy guitar player with a limited budget. Or a limited guitar player with a crappy budget.

I stopped reading at "Improvisational specialist Henry Kaiser"...

[LucSulla]

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/mastodons-brent-hinds-on-santanas-smooth-like-someone-taking-a-carrot-peeler-and-gouging-it-into-your-ears/

I'll start by admitting that I just had to 'youtube' Mastodon, and made it through about 30 seconds of the first song I clicked on, called "Oblivion"

That said, like Santana, or the song 'Smooth', or not, what does this turds opinion mean, bearing in mind what I just heard his band playing?

Talk about a carrot peeler in your ear!

Since this came up, I would take Brent Hinds' tone on numerous songs off Crack the Skye over Santana on "Smooth." For the distorted stuff, it's all a 78 JMP MK II and a JMP 2303, with a 69 JMP 100 on one tune and numerous pedals from Brendan O'Brien's stash of ridiculous vintage stuff. I happen to like the sound of a loud ass, old school Marshall with a touch of weird phase and what not in the signal chain. Different strokes, but there is something I personally dig about that sound. The guy isn't bagging on Santana, just that song, which I have to admit also hating myself.

As far as an $85k amp, never. Even if I had a trillion dollars. For one thing, one of the best things that ever happened to me was buying an amp that didn't quite do what I thought it would (60 watt Marshall TSL), but not having enough money to play on anything else for years. Learning how to pull something out of that amp made me a much better player. I learned a lot about tubes, pedals, speakers, mics, and mic placement from trying to make that amp sound good that has served me well since.

Currently, I have a Mesa Mark V, which gets pretty mixed reviews. I love it personally, but it took a good year to start understanding how to work with it to sound like me, if that makes sense. Had I had more funds to chase the tone in my head, I might have flipped it and moved on when I first got the amp and it didn't instantly do what I wanted. I'm glad that didn't happen as I am now getting some of the best tones out of it that I've managed on an amp.

What I am getting at (and this is not directed at anyone here who posted, but in general) is that I think a lot of people with the means to chase that elusive tone in their head more often than not spend a lot of money and time on increasingly boutique, expensive gear that gets hyped as the panacea for all things sound when, as cmathes said, it's all in your hands. I agree that it really is where most of your sound comes from. I read an interview with Alan Parsons once where he said David Gilmour could pick up a $20 acoustic and make it sound like a Stradivarius. After reading that, I noticed that he really does pretty much always sound like David Gilmour whether he is playing a Strat, Tele, LP, or a Gibson acoustic. The gear changes, the touch stays the same. I have no doubt that the same is true for Larry Carlton, Robben Ford, and everyone else known for having amazing tone.

Now, I don't have that level of "voice" in my own playing, but I have developed something I think that sounds like me over the years, and I think a large part of that is having to work with what was available and still learning to express myself. If you have that kind of scratch to drop almost six figures on a piece of gear, I won't think less of you for it. However, I do thoroughly believe that it is unnecessary to finding your voice. Plus, you don't end up handcuffed to your own gear to feel comfortable. I don't know how many good players I know that just go to pieces when they get into a situation without their guitar through their pedals and amp, and it is all in their head.

Anyway, my $2. My keyboard really should be taken away after 2 a.m.

[LucSulla]

Any desire I might have ever had for a Dumble was laid to rest by Henry Kaiser

I was unfamiliar. Then when I was getting familiar, I thought at first I was watching one of those joke clips where someone laid funny sounding, off key playing over a video clip. And then I realized... and am now familiar.

[anotherfreak]

*rant off - deleted* nevermind

I could get that "Smooth" tone out of a Fender Concert II that a student of mine had, but it had to be LOUD and I think it cost him $550

now if you could just get it out of a TM60..........

[velorush]

nevermind

I could get that "Smooth" tone out of a Fender Concert II that a student of mine had, but it had to be LOUD and I think it cost him $550

now if you could just get it out of a TM60..........

Given the incredible clarity of the TM60 and its ability to match well with pedals, wouldn't this be the perfect step toward that end?

The Zendrive is good enough for (Dumble flag bearer) Robben Ford on a fly date. Might be worth checking out.

Edited to correct link.