diablo175 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Led Zeppelin have lost the first round of the legal battle over classic track Stairway To Heaven. http://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2014-10-20/led-zeppelin-lose-stairway-heaven-lawsuit-round-1 The song:
crunchee Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Took 'em long enough, didn't it? I think it's obvious who Zep ripped off on 'Stairway' :
sonny o'hoolighan Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Yep. Beatnix were clearly the innovators. They should sue whoever prevails in the current suit.
Crimsontider Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 The Beatnix were so ahead of their time that they woke up in 1990 and looked like a tribute band.
DaveL Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I had thought that Jimmy Page had gotten all that music by summoning THE DEVIL but after listening to that clip, am kind ofthinkin he nicked that part.
Sugartune Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 No way. I really don't hear anything resembling a rip off. Not saying they're not guilty of other borrowing, but this I don't believe is that. Seems like an over inflated self compliment for the Spirit dudes to call it a rip off. What they had was a steaming pile of soggy acid tabs.I'm not even much of a zepplin fan, not for any reason other than I haven't explored them. Sacrilege to some, I'm sure.
Crimsontider Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 No way. I really don't hear anything resembling a rip off. Not saying they're not guilty of other borrowing,......They just picked the wrong Zep song!Plant: "Jimmy, we are going to have to change it up a little more"Page: "The Song Remains the Same!"
veatch Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I had thought that Jimmy Page had gotten all that music by summoning THE DEVIL but after listening to that clip, am kind ofthinkin he nicked that part. Yeah, i guess that Devil fellow ain't as creative musically as we thought he was. Other than that Charlie Daniel's song, he been pretty much a hack.
tbabinec Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Here is the friendly-for-radio shorter version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dwh5_hicoE .
devrock Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 It's absurd that this suit can even be filed after 40+ years. What a load of BS.
it's me HHB Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Filed by and ruled on by Idiots who don't understand music
Biz Prof Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Isn't the chord progression in Suite Madame Blue also similar to the one in Stairway? Not sure I'd opine that either is a rip off of the other. Of course, Stairway is a somewhat complex song with multiple parts; all of which makes this lawsuit somewhat absurd.
carfish7 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 If we are gonna call "chord progressions" proprietary and start suing, look out!
tbabinec Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Actually, both Spirit and Led Zep ripped off the theme song from a well-known 60s TV showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG2lTB-UVvs
BlueRedWhite Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 is a frigging chord progressionand i could play you 5 songs using it because is a frigging CHORD progression!!!!!BS!!!
Armitage Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 While a lawsuit at this time is extremely ridiculous, to be fair it sure sounds the same to me when you consider they toured together previous to Stairway being written, though that doesn't mean it was intentional either. I can't tell you how many times I've written something just to have someone say "hey, doesn't that sound like XXX?"... damn.There's Gary Moore's solo for "Still got the Blues", which is note for note "Hello" by Lionel Richie... I was playing SGTBs and my wife started singing Hello... I doubt that was intentional, but I don't know that. Or the Beatles "My Sweet Lord" being a rip off of the Chiffon's "He's so fine"... which seemed to be a rip off of the old "Oh Happy Day" hymn... or Avril's Boyfriend being a rip off of The Rubinoo's boyfriend song... or the same Rubinoo's song with the same guitar work as the older KiSS tune "Comin' Home"... (don't let Gene hear about it...).Stealing happens, intentional or not, and yet there's till only a limited number of notes... I just wouldn't want to be a juror.Funny Pachelbel Ranthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM
JohnnyB Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 ... Or the Beatles George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" being a rip off of the Chiffon's "He's so Fine"... Stealing happens, intentional or not.Yeah, and that one cost Harrison a bit of money and a loooong legal slog.He also pinched the opening line of James Taylor's "Something in the Way She Moves" for his own hit, "Something."Concerning the Zep suit, did somebody from Spirit put down his bong 42 years later and go, "Hey!"?
Crimsontider Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 It is strange that you can make a million different sounding songs with 5 chords, using different rhythms and picking. What I look for in these cases is how important the part in question is too the song. If it's a bridge or something, no big deal, but if it is the theme of the song? It's no different than someone trying to patent something that has already been patented, he may not have known, but someone already owns it.Ice Ice Baby is a perfect example of a stolen piece being the most important element in the song. Ice tried to down play the significances, but that bass beat is what was appealing to people with those huge car sub woofers back in the day. In that song, he changed the stolen verse bass line and made a into a intro bridge or something. But the song was shallow if you took that out.
Jason01 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Yep. Beatnix were clearly the innovators. They should sue whoever prevails in the current suit. And then the Beatles have to sue the Beatnix
tomteriffic Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 If 4 or 5 chords in a row are proprietary, fast forward to 4:55 or so (and catch you some kick-ass Duane Allman in the bargain). THAT would be worth squabbling over.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTFvAvsHC_Y
JGale Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 WTF!? Go ahead. Ruin it by telling me they are all Lesbians.....or maybe not ruin...
diablo175 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Posted October 21, 2014 I'm sure they could get me to weep and moan.
carfish7 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Heh. I just opened the audio track and played it with my wife sitting at the table - she had no idea what it was because she could not see what I was playing but asked "what orchestra is that doing Zep?".Case closed.
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