PSA 82 special with ohsc $1600/offer!

[Cboss]

https://reverb.com/item/73976699-hamer-special-1982?utm_content=feed_listings&utm_source=braze&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Feed-Email&utm_term=Feed Email

[velorush]

That's a beaut! 

 

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Neck depth roughly 92 mm at first and 12th fret

That's 3.62" thick.  Like a square-neck Dobro?  😄

[bry4321]

That is mine, if anyone is curious message me here, you can do the math to see what equivalent price w/out Reverb fees is because apparently I can't even measure properly. 

EDIT: Someone bought it around Thanksgiving but reconsidered because they didn't want to risk holiday/cold weather shipping. At least that was what they told me. Then I didn't repost it for a while. When I did I put it at a higher price because I wasn't sure I really wanted to part with it. 

DISCLAIMER: Neck is not 92mm thick. Probably .92 inches. EDIT AGAIN: .92-.94 INCHES NOT MILLIMETERS 

Edited May 16, 2024 by bry4321

[velorush]

2 hours ago, bry4321 said:

DISCLAIMER: Neck is not 92mm thick. Probably .92 inches. 

Just busting your chops! 

We were told (in the mid-70's) we were absolutely positively going metric (and this is not an invitation for @kizanski to get started on another epic rant about the metric system... 🤣), so our 8th grade science class was almost exclusively on how to use the metric system and doing conversions. I immediately picked up on the 92mm as being a typo.  Too much fun.

ETA: it's a great looking guitar and that black sustain block is really cool.  Original pickups, too?

Edited May 14, 2024 by velorush

[bry4321]

Thanks and yes original Dimarzios. I remember those "you will be using the metric system when you grow up" classes myself LOL!

 

[kizanski]

1 hour ago, velorush said:

… (and this is not an invitation for @kizanski to get started on another epic rant about the metric system... 🤣

Aw crap. 

[stonge]

That's a cool guitar and a very reasonable price; somebody needs to channel their inner Johnny Ramone and grab it.

[Cboss]

2 hours ago, bry4321 said:

Thanks and yes original Dimarzios. I remember those "you will be using the metric system when you grow up" classes myself LOL!

 

I use it for anything I have to measure, it's way easier than standard

[velorush]

42 minutes ago, Cboss said:

I use it for anything I have to measure, it's way easier than standard

I'm telling you, you're are sorely treading on the wrath of Kiz!  

 

 

 

I completely agree with you, but I'm not saying so here!

Edited May 15, 2024 by velorush

[JGale]

[Cboss]

I would actually like to hear the Kiz rant on the metric system :) is there a link to a past episode?

[velorush]

15 minutes ago, Cboss said:

I would actually like to hear the Kiz rant on the metric system :) is there a link to a past episode?

I searched using the HFC function, then tried Google using the site:https://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums function.  Neither turned up an archived discussion.

Really, I am using hyperbole for effect. It wasn't that big of a deal. Just a point to poke fun.

IIRC, someone posited the commonly held benefits of the metric system (accuracy, ease of use, etc.) and Kiz rebutted, rightly so, that, for example, inches could be divided into ever increasing increments that provided the same accuracy. While true, the ability of the typical human to work with fractions make his contention impractical (IMO).

It shouldn't be held in the pantheon of what I'll categorize collectively, "HFC Epic Rants, Fights and Waterloo Posts."  Those are another level entirely. 😉

[Cboss]

1 hour ago, velorush said:

I searched using the HFC function, then tried Google using the site:https://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums function.  Neither turned up an archived discussion.

Really, I am using hyperbole for effect. It wasn't that big of a deal. Just a point to poke fun.

IIRC, someone posited the commonly held benefits of the metric system (accuracy, ease of use, etc.) and Kiz rebutted, rightly so, that, for example, inches could be divided into ever increasing increments that provided the same accuracy. While true, the ability of the typical human to work with fractions make his contention impractical (IMO).

It shouldn't be held in the pantheon of what I'll categorize collectively, "HFC Epic Rants, Fights and Waterloo Posts."  Those are another level entirely. 😉

You are both very good, eloquent writers, that was the main reason I was looking for a thread, just to get some well written smiles

[The Shark]

17 hours ago, kizanski said:

Aw crap. 

Go kid...

[kizanski]

7 minutes ago, The Shark said:

Go kid...

I honestly don't know if I have the energy, but I'll give it a whirl. Also, I don't recall ranting about here, although admittedly, I have ranted about it with people repeatedly over the years.

While dealing with a base 10 system may be easier, the narrative that the metric system as a whole is "more precise" is absolutely false.

Take temperature, for instance.
Look at these temperatures in Celsius and Fahrenheit:

25°C= 77°F
30°C= 86°F
33°C= 91.4°F
35°C= 95°F
40°C= 104°F
180°C= 356°F

In a 15 degree Celsius range (25 to 40), we've covered 27 degrees of Fahrenheit. That means Fahrenheit is more accurate. 
As Ron Burgundy said, "That's not me. That's Science."

Sure, you could add a decimal point for your Celsius temperature reading, but never in my extensive time spent in the bitterly (below) freezing Alberta mountains did I ever hear anyone say, "It's -10.4 degrees today, eh?"
They say that it's 10 degrees.  That could be 13 degrees Fahrenheit. It could be 14.  It could be 15.  See my point?

For measurements like volume, weight and distance, I can see the value in metric, but I remember as many here so, 50+ years ago hearing that we would be moving to this system.  Even as a 2nd grader I scoffed at the premise knowing there was no way that this was going to happen, and outside of soda bottles, I was proven right.

 

[bry4321]

21 minutes ago, kizanski said:

Even as a 2nd grader I scoffed at the premise knowing there was no way that this was going to happen 

 

Your teachers must have loved you! 😀 

[velorush]

As I recall, the first volley came when someone casually mentioned the superiority of the metric system to which Kiz replied a very summarized version of the above. The fun happened when the original commenter took issue with Kiz' mental capacity or some such - it was then "on" as the kids say.🤣

I will cede your point with respect to general use temperature measurements. In a laboratory setting, however, it is incredibly convenient that water boils at 100 degrees at one atmosphere (and the myriad other points of reference that stem from that one measurement). The rest of it is just infinitely simpler to use including more esoteric units such as hectares (How many square feet in an acre?  43,560.  How many square meters in a hectare? 10,000. How many acres in a square mile? 640. How many hectares in a square kilometer? 100).

In the USA, however, we've the worst of both worlds due to our balk on the whole thing.  As it is now, I have to have both SAE and Metric tools to work on any American-branded car. It does not surprise me that we lacked the political will to choose one over the other (and that's absolutely not a political statement at all - if you research the decisions made it stemmed both the Carter and Reagan administrations with mistakes / compromises being made in each). So here we are.

It occurs to me I (being funny) barred Kiz from a rant and there I've gone and ranted. [/rant] 🤔😟

[kizanski]

14 minutes ago, bry4321 said:

Your teachers must have loved you! 😀 

Funny you should say that.

When we were being taught cursive in grammar school - 4th grade or so - I learned it, did my exercises, repeating over and over until mastered.
Mastered technically for speed but not neatness. I could get the pen to fly, but I was never able to surpass the neatness of a physician, and we all know that's not very good.

The following year I discovered while copying my father's method of writing IN ALL CAPS, making the first letter of a sentence and all proper nouns larger than the rest, that I could write just as fast and a lot neater.

One day in 5th grade (and this is Catholic school 5th grade, mind you) I proclaimed that I wasn't writing in cursive anymore. 
The nuns, as they are want to do, told me, "Well you have to!"
My response was, "No, I don't."

The argument ended right then and there, and outside of my signature (which is a scribbled mess) I have never written in cursive again.

13 minutes ago, velorush said:

As I recall, the first volley came when someone casually mentioned the superiority of the metric system to which Kiz replied a very summarized version of the above. The fun happened when the original commenter took issue with Kiz' mental capacity or some such - it was then "on" as the kids say.🤣

Ironically, I have no recollection of that, which unfortunately for me supports the questionable mental capacity issue.

[bry4321]

8 minutes ago, kizanski said:

One day in 5th grade (and this is Catholic school 5th grade, mind you) I proclaimed that I wasn't writing in cursive anymore. 
The nuns, as they are want to do, told me, "Well you have to!"
My response was, "No, I don't."

The argument ended right then and there, and outside of my signature (which is a scribbled mess) I have never written in cursive again.

I'm impressed!

 

[kizanski]

1 minute ago, bry4321 said:

I'm impressed!

I've never been hit with the yard stick by the nuns (although I have been hit repeatedly with my Grandmother's wooden spoon), but I have had my ears twisted, my hair pulled, and on one occasion, my face slapped my them.

By the time the Cursive Proclamation occurred, I think they realized they were wasting their time.

[JGale]

I love cursive, practiced until I could nail a perfect T and G, but KIZ is right, when it came to college and math, physics, engineering, block lettering was superior in speed plus legibility. Some cursive didn’t mix well with formulae. Go figure.

I don’t use it much anymore because I’m not writing love notes to disinterested possible mates.

[JGale]

As far as the metric argument, you’re choosing your basis incorrectly, or rather with gross bias. Grow up in Egypt you learn to speak and reason in Bumfuk, do the same all your life with a foreign measurement system and the temperature reference is the same; 10 degrees, just the baseline is different, eg. starts at zero, vice 32. You learn that, it becomes an internal rule of thumb, reference. It’s hard to do both well, and I should add, anytime you ask for a translation, you beg for a transcription error. Like that olde PartyGame, Pass-It-On?

Edited May 16, 2024 by JGale

[Cboss]

2 hours ago, kizanski said:

I honestly don't know if I have the energy, but I'll give it a whirl. Also, I don't recall ranting about here, although admittedly, I have ranted about it with people repeatedly over the years.

While dealing with a base 10 system may be easier, the narrative that the metric system as a whole is "more precise" is absolutely false.

Take temperature, for instance.
Look at these temperatures in Celsius and Fahrenheit:

25°C= 77°F
30°C= 86°F
33°C= 91.4°F
35°C= 95°F
40°C= 104°F
180°C= 356°F

In a 15 degree Celsius range (25 to 40), we've covered 27 degrees of Fahrenheit. That means Fahrenheit is more accurate. 
As Ron Burgundy said, "That's not me. That's Science."

Sure, you could add a decimal point for your Celsius temperature reading, but never in my extensive time spent in the bitterly (below) freezing Alberta mountains did I ever hear anyone say, "It's -10.4 degrees today, eh?"
They say that it's 10 degrees.  That could be 13 degrees Fahrenheit. It could be 14.  It could be 15.  See my point?

For measurements like volume, weight and distance, I can see the value in metric, but I remember as many here so, 50+ years ago hearing that we would be moving to this system.  Even as a 2nd grader I scoffed at the premise knowing there was no way that this was going to happen, and outside of soda bottles, I was proven right.

 

Absolutely, I knew it was bullshit too, same as we're going to be out of oil in a couple years

[Cboss]

1 hour ago, velorush said:

As I recall, the first volley came when someone casually mentioned the superiority of the metric system to which Kiz replied a very summarized version of the above. The fun happened when the original commenter took issue with Kiz' mental capacity or some such - it was then "on" as the kids say.🤣

I will cede your point with respect to general use temperature measurements. In a laboratory setting, however, it is incredibly convenient that water boils at 100 degrees at one atmosphere (and the myriad other points of reference that stem from that one measurement). The rest of it is just infinitely simpler to use including more esoteric units such as hectares (How many square feet in an acre?  43,560.  How many square meters in a hectare? 10,000. How many acres in a square mile? 640. How many hectares in a square kilometer? 100).

In the USA, however, we've the worst of both worlds due to our balk on the whole thing.  As it is now, I have to have both SAE and Metric tools to work on any American-branded car. It does not surprise me that we lacked the political will to choose one over the other (and that's absolutely not a political statement at all - if you research the decisions made it stemmed both the Carter and Reagan administrations with mistakes / compromises being made in each). So here we are.

It occurs to me I (being funny) barred Kiz from a rant and there I've gone and ranted. [/rant] 🤔😟

On a related note is this the only country that uses 120 volt current? And why is that?

[Cboss]

1 hour ago, kizanski said:

Funny you should say that.

When we were being taught cursive in grammar school - 4th grade or so - I learned it, did my exercises, repeating over and over until mastered.
Mastered technically for speed but not neatness. I could get the pen to fly, but I was never able to surpass the neatness of a physician, and we all know that's not very good.

The following year I discovered while copying my father's method of writing IN ALL CAPS, making the first letter of a sentence and all proper nouns larger than the rest, that I could write just as fast and a lot neater.

One day in 5th grade (and this is Catholic school 5th grade, mind you) I proclaimed that I wasn't writing in cursive anymore. 
The nuns, as they are want to do, told me, "Well you have to!"
My response was, "No, I don't."

The argument ended right then and there, and outside of my signature (which is a scribbled mess) I have never written in cursive again.

Ironically, I have no recollection of that, which unfortunately for me supports the questionable mental capacity issue.

Holy crap you got off easy for a Catholic school, I got beat up by the nuns/ assistant principal repeatedly.. I had and probably still have the 5th grade record of detentions, basically for not conforming